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  • #894169
    coloradotroutcoloradotrout
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      Compressor was making a rattling/beating noise. I replaced it, along with the receiver dryer. The inlet side of the dryer had visible metal shavings, so I think I better replace the condenser. What about the expansion valve on the evaporator? The evaporator? Anything else? I had a shop remove the refrigerant, so it’s empty now. I just need to put the parts back and then take it back to get charged.

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    • #894172
      college mancollege man
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        hopefully the shavings stopped at the drier. Take the line off going to the expansion vale. see if any shavings are there. if none there
        good to go. if present replace the expansion valve.

        #894178
        coloradotroutcoloradotrout
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          Thanks. I did only see shavings on the inlet side of the dryer, nothing visible on the outlet side. Do I just pull the line at the firewall and look? Or should I remove the expansion valve itself and look?

          The route is compressor to condenser, to dryer, to expansion valve (with the evaporator), to evaporator, back to compressor. The expansion valve is part of the evaporator assembly under the glovebox.

          Should I use compressed air to blow out the lines from compressor to condenser, condenser to dryer, and dryer to firewall (assuming I see no more shavings beyond that point)?

          #894180
          college mancollege man
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            Just pull the line at the firewall. No need to blow anything out at this stage. If the inlet to the expansion valve is clean (firewall) Then the
            drier did its job and stopped the shavings. lets hope

            #894198
            Jake FJake F
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              Bro, if you have endless money for a ’99 Civic then just replace the entire HVAC. If this is a DIY, avoid the evap/expansion valve, and condenser unless the fins are ruined. Charge it, see if it holds. Get back to us.

              #894200
              coloradotroutcoloradotrout
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                Condenser comes right after compressor and costs $47. I will replace it.

                #894214
                coloradotroutcoloradotrout
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                  No visible shavings at firewall. Using compressed air I blew out the line from dryer to evaparator. Grey oil but no shavings. New compressor, dryer and condenser, new o rings wherever I pulled a line. Oil into those 3 components. I guess now I take to the shop for vacuum and charge. I’m tempted to buy a manifold and vacuum pump, but not sure I would use it again.

                  #894218
                  college mancollege man
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                    Sounds good so far. keep us posted how things go.

                    #894226
                    Billy AndrewsBilly
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                      Gauge manifolds and vacuum pumps can often be borrowed from auto parts stores. If not, gauge manifolds are cheap, and vacuum pumps are cheaper than paying someone to do it for you.

                      #894229
                      coloradotroutcoloradotrout
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                        Thanks. Shop quoted me $59 plus R134 to vac down and charge. That is getting down into the territory where its hard to jusify tools.

                        #894231
                        coloradotroutcoloradotrout
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                          Good callout ‘relative4’, my O’Reilly has guages and pump. I’ll Google up how or point me to a video please. $20 vs 100 is reason enough to consider.

                          I found the ETCG vids; any other tips?

                          #894241
                          Billy AndrewsBilly
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                            Wow, that’s pretty cheap.

                            #894266
                            coloradotroutcoloradotrout
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                              Got guage and vac pump from O’Reilly, two 12oz cans of R134a from Walmart, and the self sealing can adapter from O’Reilly 2nd trip.

                              Ran vac for an hour, then let it sit for another hour. No leaks.

                              I attached the first can and bled it out at the manifold yellow valve. All vapor so hard to know exactly when, but I hit it for a few seconds. I opened the low pressure side and gently shook and rolled the can with the ac on. It took awhile, maybe 5 to 7 minutes. I was getting some leaks around the connection at the can; just needed to tighten connection. Now the bad news. When i disconnected the can i forget to close off the knob on the manifold. It was a few seconds before i realized and then quickly shut it off. I then attached the 2nd can, emptied it, and disconnected everything correctly.

                              It blows 50F with 70 outside and 70 humidity tonight.

                              Thoughts? Kicking myself for letting that air in.

                              #894269
                              college mancollege man
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                                Sounds like a win. Little bit of a newbie mistake, but you will know next time.

                                #894272
                                coloradotroutcoloradotrout
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                                  Shall I evacuate and start over? I’m good with that if needed.

                                  Guages/pump – $0 rental from OReilly
                                  R134A, 2 x 12oz – $10 Walmart

                                  Very low cost to try again. If damage to my new compressor, dryer, condenser is likely, I can evacuate and recharge.

                                  #894273
                                  Billy AndrewsBilly
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                                    It’s fine. The drier is there to catch any traces of moisture introduced by air that gets into unpressurized sections of the gauge manifold during can switches, etc.

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