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    Andy WhiteAndy White
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      Most overlooked tool is a battery charger/maintainer and most important of all, desulftor. As most battery issues are caused by lead sulfate that does not go back into the electrolyte.

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      BillBill
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        I believe you’re right on the sulfated battery issue but I have never heard of a battery desulfator. Can you fill us in on that.

        #581925
        Kevin CriswellKevin Criswell
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          [quote=”wysetech” post=88577]I believe you’re right on the sulfated battery issue but I have never heard of a battery desulfator. Can you fill us in on that.[/quote]

          http://www.instructables.com/id/Desulfator-for-12V-Car-Batteries-in-an-Altoids-Ti/

          #581929
          Andy WhiteAndy White
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            The one I use is from http://batteryminders.com

            They offer both standard plug in models as well as solar ones and even a desulfator that’s run by the alternator that works as you drive (which can be plugged into one of the standard chargers)

            #581952
            Kevin CriswellKevin Criswell
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              [quote=”Boodieman72″ post=88583]The one I use is from http://batteryminders.com

              They offer both standard plug in models as well as solar ones and even a desulfator that’s run by the alternator that works as you drive (which can be plugged into one of the standard chargers)[/quote]

              Not sure I would want one hooked up with the battery connected to the vehicle. Most desulfators work by sending high voltage low amperage pulses to the battery to break up the sulfation.

              #581954
              Andy WhiteAndy White
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                [quote=”Raistian77″ post=88594][quote=”Boodieman72″ post=88583]The one I use is from http://batteryminders.com

                They offer both standard plug in models as well as solar ones and even a desulfator that’s run by the alternator that works as you drive (which can be plugged into one of the standard chargers)[/quote]

                Not sure I would want one hooked up with the battery connected to the vehicle. Most desulfators work by sending high voltage low amperage pulses to the battery to break up the sulfation.[/quote]

                That’s not the way BatteryMinders units work, check out their website and you can learn more.

                #581962
                Kevin CriswellKevin Criswell
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                  Looks like they use the high frequency method. I still would not have that hooked to a battery that was installed in a vehicle. Modules are very sensitive to frequency issues that can interfere with the chipsets.

                  #581964
                  Andy WhiteAndy White
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                    [quote=”Raistian77″ post=88599]Looks like they use the high frequency method. I still would not have that hooked to a battery that was installed in a vehicle. Modules are very sensitive to frequency issues that can interfere with the chipsets.[/quote]

                    Then don’t use the one thats hooked up all the time, use one of the charger ones instead.

                    #581968
                    Kevin CriswellKevin Criswell
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                      [quote=”Boodieman72″ post=88600][quote=”Raistian77″ post=88599]Looks like they use the high frequency method. I still would not have that hooked to a battery that was installed in a vehicle. Modules are very sensitive to frequency issues that can interfere with the chipsets.[/quote]

                      Then don’t use the one thats hooked up all the time, use one of the charger ones instead.[/quote]

                      The one I used I built, but I only use it on disconnected batteries.

                      I get nervous when charger manufactures tell customers it is safe to connect a charger to a battery that is connected to the vehicle, in reality it is not. All major automotive manufacturers will tell you to disconnect the battery when using any charger as chargers can spike a system, I won’t even use the “boost” mode on a charger. Now the newest chargers are much much much safer and produce a much cleaner output, but I still am leery that a mains spike can screw with them enough for them to spike the vehicle. Especially in this modern age of at least 5 to 20 control modules on a vehicle.

                      #581970
                      Andy WhiteAndy White
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                        [quote=”Raistian77″ post=88602][quote=”Boodieman72″ post=88600][quote=”Raistian77″ post=88599]Looks like they use the high frequency method. I still would not have that hooked to a battery that was installed in a vehicle. Modules are very sensitive to frequency issues that can interfere with the chipsets.[/quote]

                        Then don’t use the one thats hooked up all the time, use one of the charger ones instead.[/quote]

                        The one I used I built, but I only use it on disconnected batteries.

                        I get nervous when charger manufactures tell customers it is safe to connect a charger to a battery that is connected to the vehicle, in reality it is not. All major automotive manufacturers will tell you to disconnect the battery when using any charger as chargers can spike a system, I won’t even use the “boost” mode on a charger. Now the newest chargers are much much much safer and produce a much cleaner output, but I still am leery that a mains spike can screw with them enough for them to spike the vehicle. Especially in this modern age of at least 5 to 20 control modules on a vehicle.[/quote]

                        I have to disagree with you, I have yet to see any manufacturer suggest such a thing. The BatteryMinders charges are all smart chargers not the old dumb ones that have a “boost / start” mode

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