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4 years 3 months ago #124194 by EricTheCarGuy
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This video has a longer title: Craftsman vs Craftsman Professional vs Harbor Freight vs Matco vs Mac vs Snap-on

It\'s too long for the forum so I\'m including it here.

So these are my opinions on these tools that I\'ve used for years. Please keep in mind that these are my opinions. Also, be sure to consider use. The DIYer won\'t use their tools in the same way a professional would and therefore the ROI is different for both parties.


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4 years 3 months ago #124221 by Chevyman21
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Really glad you did this video Eric, just last week we were having a forum discussion on the matter. Thank you!

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4 years 3 months ago #124263 by andrewbutton442
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Great video comparison, indeed. That one type of Crapsman wrench with the raised section I will not even have in my box, or near it. I value my hands. Got the ergomics of a broken piece of wood. The Harbor Freight Spread Jaw combinations are good for jamming on with a pipe, or welding on to make something, ect. I think Eric should do a comparison on Ratchets. I have Sk and Snap on, and they are nice. Crapsman ratchets on the other hand, are horrible, simply a nightmare. I have some really old ones that have really coarse teeth and a wheel to spin the fastener on the back. What a joke. The new crapsman ratchets are out of this world bad. Best way to review that ratchet is by throwing it away. I don\'t have any mac or matco ratchets but I am sure they are decent. Harbor Freight ratchets, never owned one, and have saved my knuckles because of it. I think the best way to get a Crapsman tool to work well is heat the shaft of the tool it until its cherry red and then use a 3 foot cheater on it. Get it out of it\'s misery.

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4 years 3 months ago #124270 by Chevyman21
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\andrewbutton442\ wrote: Great video comparison, indeed. That one type of Crapsman wrench with the raised section I will not even have in my box, or near it. I value my hands. Got the ergomics of a broken piece of wood. The Harbor Freight Spread Jaw combinations are good for jamming on with a pipe, or welding on to make something, ect. I think Eric should do a comparison on Ratchets. I have Sk and Snap on, and they are nice. Crapsman ratchets on the other hand, are horrible, simply a nightmare. I have some really old ones that have really coarse teeth and a wheel to spin the fastener on the back. What a joke. The new crapsman ratchets are out of this world bad. Best way to review that ratchet is by throwing it away. I don\\\'t have any mac or matco ratchets but I am sure they are decent. Harbor Freight ratchets, never owned one, and have saved my knuckles because of it. I think the best way to get a Crapsman tool to work well is heat the shaft of the tool it until its cherry red and then use a 3 foot cheater on it. Get it out of it\\\'s misery.

Oh cmon craftsman ain\'t that bad lol. It\'s served me in the field well at least. Mine are made in the USA though, now they make alot of their stuff overseas. I\'ve beat the living hell out of my craftsman rachets *knock on wood*

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4 years 3 months ago #124280 by andrewbutton442
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You know, many moons ago, I would take a hammer and ram the hell out of a sears or wards powercraft wrench in a heartbeat when that need arose. Remeber Balkamp tools, from Napa, had alot of that stuff early on. Good quality but generally yucky stuff. NEVER would I beat on my snapon stuff now though, you have a point there. The craftsman stuff I have is many decades old, but the only thing I have now is from Sears now is a couple ratchets, the polished ones, and they are junk. I think somebody gave some of those sears ratchets with the sand finish and raised sections, but they went in my steel pile. I like the Snap-on ratchets with the hard comfort handles, although my dual 80s are polished handles. I don\'t really like tools with rubber handles. About 15 years ago I bought a set of Matco Screwdrivers that were lime green rubber with grey felt inserts, and they become impossible to clean about the second job. The Matco guy said to wipe them down with simple green, and of course this removed the writing, so I said no more like that.

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4 years 3 months ago #124281 by seant117
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Hi Eric, great video. How do you feel about Napa\'s line of Carlyle tools? I\'ve used a few of them before and they all feel extremely solid. In fact, I have a set of Autocraft flare nut wrenches. I\'ve used the 10mm wrench maybe a little over a dozen times and it just feels like it\'s been stretched out and doesn\'t fit as tightly as it used to. I went and bought the Carlyle 10mm and 12mm flare nut wrench and that one tool itself cost more than the three piece Autocraft set. It seems to be made of much higher quality metal and has a chrome finish to it instead of the non finished finish on it like the basic Craftsman tools. I do mostly my own work and other peoples cars only if they ask me and only if it\'s something I know I can do. Otherwise, I\'m willing to learn.

Another thing, I\'ve noticed you really love that famous soda bottle bleeder. If you don\'t mind, can I buy and send to you a one man bleeder and maybe you can hopefully do a tool review video on that? I just purchased one for myself but haven\'t had the chance to use it yet. I may bleed out my clutch fluid just to try it out and see how well it works. It\'s basically a tube that goes into a check valve and out to another tube. I\'m willing to pay for the cost of the tool and shipping to you so you can show people an easy way to bleed brakes/clutch hydraulics. It\'s the least I can do. You have no idea how much you\'ve helped me understand how to repair, diagnose and appreciate cars. I really appreciate it. Thank you!

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4 years 3 months ago #124282 by andrewbutton442
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My opinion on the Caryle tools, for whatever it\'s worth is this. Almost as nice as tool truck stuff, but also just about as costly. I wouldn\'t want to dump that much money on wrenches as they want and still get laughed at by others in the shop because they were not from a truck. Not that I have the problem where I am at, but its a reality. I would have like to have seen Eric compare a Carlyle wrench against the snap-on, in a bolt rounding contest. I am sure the Carlyle would absolutley destroy the Crapsman, but against the others, I would like to see.

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4 years 3 months ago #124283 by seant117
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I\'ve used several Carlyle tools before and they blow the Craftsman out of the water. They just feel much better in my hand and feel much more solid. I can\'t even count how many Craftsman ratchets I\'ve rounded the mechanisms on. I\'m not even that hard on them. Pretty convinced they\'re plastic inside. I don\'t take hammers or mallets on them. My favorite ratchet is a GearWrench 3/8\" flex head with a long handle. I paid about $30 for that and it hasn\'t failed me yet. I think it\'s fair to say it\'s been quite abused and still works flawlessly. I also have the Gearwrench 6 point shallow and deep socket sets. So far, they\'ve held up extremely well and I\'m impressed with the quality. Ever since the day I broke 3 brand new Craftsman wrenches, I don\'t think I would buy another one. Either that or it was manufactured incorrectly.

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4 years 3 months ago #124295 by EricTheCarGuy
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\seant117\ wrote: Hi Eric, great video. How do you feel about Napa\\\'s line of Carlyle tools? I\\\'ve used a few of them before and they all feel extremely solid. In fact, I have a set of Autocraft flare nut wrenches. I\\\'ve used the 10mm wrench maybe a little over a dozen times and it just feels like it\\\'s been stretched out and doesn\\\'t fit as tightly as it used to. I went and bought the Carlyle 10mm and 12mm flare nut wrench and that one tool itself cost more than the three piece Autocraft set. It seems to be made of much higher quality metal and has a chrome finish to it instead of the non finished finish on it like the basic Craftsman tools. I do mostly my own work and other peoples cars only if they ask me and only if it\\\'s something I know I can do. Otherwise, I\\\'m willing to learn.

Another thing, I\\\'ve noticed you really love that famous soda bottle bleeder. If you don\\\'t mind, can I buy and send to you a one man bleeder and maybe you can hopefully do a tool review video on that? I just purchased one for myself but haven\\\'t had the chance to use it yet. I may bleed out my clutch fluid just to try it out and see how well it works. It\\\'s basically a tube that goes into a check valve and out to another tube. I\\\'m willing to pay for the cost of the tool and shipping to you so you can show people an easy way to bleed brakes/clutch hydraulics. It\\\'s the least I can do. You have no idea how much you\\\'ve helped me understand how to repair, diagnose and appreciate cars. I really appreciate it. Thank you!


I haven\'t used NAPA\'s tools so I really can\'t comment on that. Auto parts store tools usually fall into the DIYer category.

Thanks for the offer, but I actually have a vacuum bleeder set up. I just don\'t use it often.

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4 years 3 months ago #124304 by andrewbutton442
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Autoparts store DIY tools with Tooltruck prices. Not a wonder Carlyle is not well known.

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