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VTC oil control solenoid valve stuck in the head!

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    Bret CarlsonBret Carlson
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      I have a 2005 Accord 4 cyl EX that I am trying to replace the VTC oil control solenoid valve on. The top half of the valve snapped off in my hand leaving the rest of the valve embedded in the head. It’s stuck! Won’t twist, turn or move. The new one doesn’t show any notch or such that would cause it to lock in place so I am concerned it is welded to the head or frozen, but it is definitely stuck. I’ve been after it with pliers and can’t get that thing to budge. How can I get it out? I think I have to pull the valve cover and go in from the back side but haven’t torn into an engine like that before and want to make sure I’ll have access before I tear into the engine and run the risk of screwing something up.

      Suggestions?

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    • #563791
      TomTom
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        I don’t believe that you will have any access from behind. I fear you will need to find a way to pull it from the outside.

        #563812
        george gonzalezgeorge gonzalez
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          Isn’t there a hex head bolt sticking out of the top? That’s what holds it in place.

          #563814
          Bret CarlsonBret Carlson
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            I’ve tried 90 degree long-reach pliers, small needle-nose pliers, small electrical pliers and no luck. can’t get enough of a grab on it to gain any leverage. Figure I am going to have to move all the hard lines (can’t remember what they are to) in front of it so i can get a direct straight on shot at it. Any recommendations otherwise?

            #563816
            Bret CarlsonBret Carlson
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              There’s one screw holding it in place. It came out without issue, but the electronic part snapped off and now I can’t get the body out of the unit out.

              #563818
              Bret CarlsonBret Carlson
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                Here’s a quick example of what I’m trying to do. You’ll have to click on the images to get tehm to expand, but the bottom one is a good example.
                http://members.iwebplanet.net/jcasti1226/cursos/Service%20Manual/A/HTML/00/SEA3E00A14680863365FJAT00.HTML

                #563864
                EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                  I believe the solenoid assembly is held in place by 3 fasteners.

                  #563868
                  george gonzalezgeorge gonzalez
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                    From the drawing it looks like it goes in loosely with a o-ring sealing it. Since it’s broken, you can try more drastic measures. Try hitting the top of it 10 times with a medium-sized hammer. If that doesn’t loosen it, try tapping it to the side. It looks sturdy enough that you’re unlikely to break it.

                    #563890
                    Kevin CriswellKevin Criswell
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                      [quote=”grg8888″ post=82798]From the drawing it looks like it goes in loosely with a o-ring sealing it. Since it’s broken, you can try more drastic measures. Try hitting the top of it 10 times with a medium-sized hammer. If that doesn’t loosen it, try tapping it to the side. It looks sturdy enough that you’re unlikely to break it.[/quote]

                      Wonder if he can thread a self tapping screw into it to have something to lock a set of vicegrips on.

                      #563910
                      Bret CarlsonBret Carlson
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                        Thanks Eric. Evidently I’m not calling the part by the right name. The image Raistian77 has below is actually what I’m trying to replace. It’s only held in with one screw from all the documentation I’ve seen and from the replacement part I’ve already purchased. I just can’t get in under the head with pliers or anything to pull the piece out.

                        #563946
                        Bret CarlsonBret Carlson
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                          It took a pair of 6″ extended vice grips, some 90 degree extended pliers, some contorting and some elbow grease but I finally got it out and the new one it. Here’s a picture of the one that came apart alongside the new one.

                          still have the original problem though…cutting out at 2600-2700 RPM. Going to research that and start a new thread if need be.

                          thanks for everyone’s help!

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                          Kevin CriswellKevin Criswell
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                            Glad you got it out.

                            Yeah open a new thread and let us know what is going on?

                            #564243
                            EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                              If it was cutting out I would have suggested looking at the ignition system, the plugs and coil packs. Also, if that engine gets low on oil, the timing chain can stretch. Perhaps look into those things for the problem you’re having. BTW, the only issues I’ve ever seen with Honda VTEC system were due to low oil or incorrect oil viscosity.

                              #587372
                              Ricardo CarregaRicardo Carrega
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                                StubbornMech,

                                I’m having the same problem on trying to replace my OCV on my 2007 Hyundai Sonata.
                                Can you please share some additional details in how you were able to remove your valve?
                                Was the engine hot or cold? Can you post some links with the products you used so I can see if I can possibly consider buying them?

                                Thanks a lot,
                                Ricardo

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                                EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                                  [quote=”rcarrega” post=94746]StubbornMech,

                                  I’m having the same problem on trying to replace my OCV on my 2007 Hyundai Sonata.
                                  Can you please share some additional details in how you were able to remove your valve?
                                  Was the engine hot or cold? Can you post some links with the products you used so I can see if I can possibly consider buying them?

                                  Thanks a lot,
                                  Ricardo[/quote]

                                  You might want to start your own thread on this. This vehicle is an Accord and not similar to your Hyundai.

                                  #587685
                                  Ricardo CarregaRicardo Carrega
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                                    He responded via private message. It was pretty much the same issue. Thanks a lot.

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