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    FrankFrank
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      I have been looking for a Peugeot 305 for the past few years, there are still a small number of van versions that occasionally turn up, sometimes a saloon but i wanted the estate (wagon) version as that is what my grandpa used to drive, they were once a fairly common car on the roads but have become quite rare in the past 10 years.
      One turned up on ebay and i bought it, the seller agreed to do some work on the car in order to put it back on the road such as welding the sills near the rear wheel arches which i paid for about 3 weeks ago, i went and picked up yesterday, driving it back home from manchester in england via the ferry in holyhead to dublin and drove back to northern ireland where i live, 250 miles travelled without any breakdowns; the first 20 miles went fine but then i hit traffic and got concerned about the temperature needle rising happily the electric fan kicked in when it reached the 1/2 point and the temperature never exceeded this, when driving it stayed much cooler, the carburettor was a bit tempermental at slower speeds it cuts out at junctions but when cruising at 70 it was flawless.
      Here it is:

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      It comes with the 1.6 XU5S engine, and had a weber carburettor fitted to replace the standard Solex one, there is a clatter from the top end and this is most likely to be due to a worn camshaft which these old XU5 engines seemed to suffer from causing it to feel a bit down on power, but the plan is to source an XUD diesel engine which was also offered in this car (and remained in production in various peugeot/citroen cars until about 10 years ago) and convert it to diesel.

      The bodywork is in reasonable condition, certainly better than any other 305 i have seen, they are getting very rare now.

      I have a few general questions about restoring / using an old car:

      The rubber components such as the door seals, window run channels, window seals. What is the best stuff to put on them to stop them from dry rotting, i know keeping it out of direct sunlight is a good start but is there products that keep them soft and good at sealing. Parts for this car are hard to come by now so its a case of trying to keep the existing parts in good condition.

      Can an old car be galvanised, it might be a completely impractical and perhaps overly expensive option but i have always thought fully galvanising a car is the best thing to keep rust away, audi did it with their 80 and there are still examples of them for sale without any rust.

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      FrankFrank
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        Its been a while since i got the 305 i just work on it in my spare time, so far ive stripped it back to the shell, and am in the process of stripping the underseal off so that it can be sandblasted before the body is welded up.

        The first thing i done was went and bought this 1989 305 Van for its diesel engine as the plan is to convert it to diesel:
        [IMG]http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/406executiveHDI/305/IMG_9144_zpscd017dad.jpg[/IMG]
        The van had a good XUD in it with 180,000 miles, the body was beyond reapair, but the engine even after being sat in a field for 5 years started up and drove the van onto the trailer and then into our shed where its engine was removed:
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        I changed the timing belt and went searching for the full set of new coolant hoses (i have most now but still searching for a few)
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        My cousin then went and bought himself a 305, his was a 1988 Van with 70,000 miles, a very good engine but the body needs quite a lot of work:
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        At this point i hadnt even started stripping the S5 it was still driving ok and i didnt really have anywhere safe to store it and a load of loose parts, i was about to start then i seen another one for sale on an owners club, it came from the isle of wight, it was a 600 mile drive home but worth it as the car was a rare automatic, and had one owner from new and a full folder full with all the work done on it:
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        About a week after buying this my uncle stopped using a mushroom house so i started renting it off him for storing the cars in and doing work on them, its not a conventional garage but it has plenty of space, good ventilation and its fully insulated so easy to keep warm in the colder weather. The engine was pulled out of the S5 and i started stripping it out:

        [IMG]http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/406executiveHDI/305/IMG_9582_zpsa3f9f79d.jpg[/IMG]
        leaves in the scuttle panel have caused a bit of rust but it hasnt actually caused any leaks:
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        Not exactly the safest lifting practice when removing the back axle, but the body of these cars are extremley light its possible to lift it around with someone at each side:
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        The back axle, front subframe and a few other parts were sandblasted:
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        I sent them off to get zinc plated, the overall quality of the work wasnt brilliant the zinc doesnt seem to have got inside the subframe at all but they will also get powder coated and the zinc plating will just stop rust if any parts get chipped:
        [IMG]http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/406executiveHDI/305/DSC06732_zps7ed543ca.jpg[/IMG]

        Im still working at the body and panels getting them ready for sandblasting, its not a very rusty car but there is plenty of small bits:
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        the holes in the bottom of the back door:
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        The hole in the tailgate which was causing the leak:
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        A hole in the sill only discovered after removing the thick coat of underseal which was hiding it:
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        The technique i have been using is to heat up the underseal with a flame then scrape it away its a time consuming job but much quicker than the electric heat gun i was using earlier
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        This was about 2 hours work with the electric heat gun
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        20 minutes with the gas torch
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        Removing the under seal on the floor is the next step, my cousin has a rotisserie which needs adapters made up to suit the car:
        [IMG]http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/406executiveHDI/305/IMG_0126_zpsb13ae738.jpg[/IMG]

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