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Long story short, I got my daily driver going (91 accord se 2.2l), it has had a small oil leak. Today one of the seals by the timing belt gave out, gushes oil when on………….
I have done timing belts before, but never any seals. Eric or anyone else that know, what all seals are by the timing belt / crank pulley.
If I get your vmanual for the honda timing belt, how much more info will i be lacking for changing out the seals?
Thanks
edit: The f v manual says it covers the seals.
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I previously purchased Eric’s v-manual for my 2.2 ’96 accord timing belt replacement. It was money well spent. He does go into the seals and how to replace them. It would be best to purchase any seals in question from a dealer or buy original Honda seals elsewhere for replacement. It would stink to do all that work only to find you have to do it over again because of faulty/ slightly mis-sized seals. You might as well replace the water pump too if it has been a while while you”re in there….Best of luck.
Its leaking very bad. Think what it would look like if you took a the probe of a test light and poked 2 holes in the oil pan. Now move this leak to the end of the lower timing cover. it only leaks when running, I cant tell if its coming from behind the timing cover or from in side.
The water pump and t belt was done about 6 months ago. It was dayco parts from advance auto, I prefer gates or OEM.
Note I plan on keeping this car until its dead.
Should I redo them if there is oil on the belt?
What all seals/gaskets/parts are there that can leak?
From what I have gathered there is:
Cranks seal
cam seal
balance shaft seal
some o rings that I have no clue where they are at
I read something about the oil pump could leak like this, not sure.
I just did the valve cover gasket and lower seals not to long ago, It has to come off can it be reused?I am trying to come up with part list and a plan so I can fix it. Current plan is to tear down replace T belt water pump, all seals there, and anything else leaking.
Here is an idea for you, so you don’t have to figure out every seal in advance. Take the timing cover off and clean everything up really good with brake cleaner. Use a couple of cans if you need to. Then crank the car for a minute of so (it shouldn’t hurt anything with the timing belt still in place). Don’t do this for a long time. Then, you should be able to clearly see what is leaking oil. It would be good to do the crank, cam and balance shaft seals. Unless you see oil coming from another area, you could perhaps let it ride. Some of the Honda guys may set me straight here.
I would think you could reuse the valve cover gasket if it’s relatively new, using some rtv at the corners again. I don’t know exactly what lower seals you’re talking about here.
Might I suggest GMB brand for the water pump if you’re not going OEM? This is a Japanese made pump and is generally very good quality. Good luck with all of this. I know it’s a bit of a job…
So it was the balance shaft seal. I got the video it was very useful. I got a aisin kit of parts then added the seals. What came in the kit: Aisin water pump, koyo tensioners, mitsubshi belts, timken cam and crank seals, snk balance shaft seal, new honda tensioner springs.
Still need a bit of help tho.
i’m not sure what mark is tdc on my flex plate here is what I think I see *the M should look like a sideways w aka flipped:[IMG]http://s18.postimg.org/l65mq08uh/timing.png[/IMG]
I’m not sure if the line below the triangle is a real timing mark. I want to see it and know it should be white. So it seems to be there and white. can anyone tell me if the triangle is tdc or if there really is a white line below it. cam, oil, and balance shaft timing marksline up.
I know the 3 lines are for ignition timing. Whats up with the sideways M. Is it a mark for anything?
I see a up arrow on the crank gear but no info in the repair manual or the eric the car guy video I bought. IS this also a timing mark?
is this normal: The timing markings on the flywheel move by an 1/2 inch to an inch up or down when i try to turn the crankshaft. it seems the crankshaft does not move, if it does move its less than a full tooth. example: ratchet on crank bolt, press on ratchet gear does not move but marking on flywheel have.
Photo of top timing marks:
[IMG]http://s23.postimg.org/rs2z3ww2j/timing_marks.jpg[/IMG]If you look at the black drawing I made in paint, those are the marks I see on the flex plate there is a sideways M stamped on it between the tdc and ignition timing (The M is not the pointer). I then have a photo of the two marks where I thought there should of only have been one for TDC.
The mark at the top of the flex plate “should” be TDC, but for some reason I see two. Have a look at my photo I put up. i’m not sure what to use.
I knew I was not crazy, look what I found. I still dont know what mark is white there is no paint on the marks. anyone know if its the 1st or the second mark that is the white TDC?
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/customlowz/TECH%20INFO/fig2.jpg[/IMG]
I line up the crank sprocket to the mark on the oil pump (which i assume is TDC, but cant confirm as I cant find documentation on it.) and all marks looked dead on. The pointer for the flex plate was pointed at the lower of the two I took a photo of (the T in the Honda supplied pic). Also had a 3/8 drive ext in #1 cylinder and it seemed to be at the top.
Its now all apart and cleaned up from the oil mess. We shall see how this turns out…
Thanks for everything everyone.
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