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CV Axle Problem!!

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  • #657609
    Chase
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      Hello, I have a 1997 Honda Prelude Base model. 174,xxx miles. I noticed that where the passenger CV axle goes into the transmission, the axle can move. It has a good bit of play. You can move it up down side to side,, What would cause this? I’m looking to fix it asap! New axles btw. They were replaced in may.

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    • #657650
      Daniel
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        How sure are you of what part is actually moving? Is it just the axle moving in the cv socket/boot area or is it actually the splined end of the cv axle moving in the transmission? Do you have transmission fluid leaking?
        If there is no fluid leak it is probably just movement in the socket (which could indicate worn bearings if there is excessive play).
        If there is trans fluid leaking from this area, that would indicate a bad bearing.
        If either part needs attention, you would probably hear and/or feel it when driving.

        #657667
        Chase
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          i can grab the axle before the boot and shake it and see it moving in the transmission. No fluid is leaking. would that be the output shaft bearing? How hard would it be to replace that?

          #657672
          Daniel
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            It is pretty much impossible that it would be play in the output bearings and not have fluid leaking past the axle seal. If there is no fluid than it’s probably just play in the CV joint. It just looks like play in the transmission. Grab the housing for the CV joint (not the axle) and try to move it. You’ll notice there is no play. It’s normal to have a bit of play where the axle joins the socket. If you are not hearing any noise than it’s probably nothing to worry about.

            #657677
            Chase
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              Okay I did that and it is defiantly moving with quite a bit of play. I have an oil leak so maybe I don’t notice the leak because of the oil dripping down. I’ll try to upload a video to YouTube and I will link it here.

              #657681
              Chase
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                #657694
                Daniel
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                  ooooooo That ain’t good. Are you sure there is fluid in the trans? It should be pouring out of there. Are you still driving this thing? Those bearings are shot. Unfortunately, the debris from those bearings has probably gotten into every little nook and cranny of the trans.

                  #657698
                  Chase
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                    Still driving it as it is my only means of transportation. Maybe the fluid I have been seeing is mtf and not oil. How hard would it be do you know?

                    #657708
                    Daniel
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                      Ok so there is probably no fluid left in the trans. So either the bearing went bad and dumped the fluid, or the fluid leak out of somewhere else and caused the bearings to go bad. This could be a good thing and bad thing. A; there was no fluid spreading debris through out the trans. B; the other bearings in the trans have been with out lube. A manual trans rebuild is much easier than an auto rebuild, but it still requires some special tools (ie a hydraulic press). You also never know the extent of the damage until you crack it open. Once you crack it open you have past the point of no return.
                      To reduce your vehicle’s down time, you may want to buy a rebuilt trans. That way you can rebuild the old one at your leisure. A rebuild kit, on this trans, is about the same cost as a junkyard trans.
                      My personal opinion is that the trans is probably not salvageable. At least not for a reasonable cost..

                      #657744
                      Chase
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                        alright. I really appreciate the help! what would happen if i continued to drive like this for a little while until i could afford the repair?

                        #657746
                        Ingvar
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                          Why don’t you check on ATF level FIRST? Before driving? As if it’s Ok and there is no ATF leak – just keep going.

                          #657750
                          Chase
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                            Its a 5 speed. Guessing I just remove the fill bolt and check how much is in there?

                            #657761
                            zero
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                              In most cases yes. You should be able to stick your finger in there and touch the upper level of fluid without trying too hard. Just make sure you are removing the fill plug and not something else.

                              #657781
                              Daniel
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                                With out knowing what condition the insides are in, it’s hard to say. I don’t know if it would be a good or bad thing to try and add some gear oil. I’ve worked on a couple of these, but I am in no way an expert.
                                Just do the best you can with the budget you have. The fact that it’s your only transportation complicates things a bit.

                                These transmissions usually last a really long time. So a junkyard trans will probably be a good investment. Just make sure you change the gear oil when you install it.

                                Good luck. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you.

                                #657816
                                Chase
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                                  Awesome! Thank you! I found 2 local but both are auto 🙁 I’ll be on the lookout.

                                  #657822
                                  Ingvar
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                                    Manual or automatic – before jumping onto replacements, it is common sense feasible to check if there is any actual gear oil leak. As if it does not leak – it’s a Honda, right? Just keep going.

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