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  • #445385
    nowheremannowhereman
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      Hey everyone,
      I have been

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    • #445386
      dreamer2355dreamer2355
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        Welcome to the forums!

        1) For the brakes, if your experiencing a pulsation, you may have warped rotors. The only way to tell is to use a dial indicator gage and check for run out. I would start by having the rotors resurfaced.

        What brand of brake components were used? Squealing can also be cause by bad quality pads as well as a lack of lubrication on the pad that faces the piston.

        2) Here is a great video by Eric on finding suspension noises –

        http://www.youtube.com/user/EricTheCarG … cFbb43fwqk

        Watch that video then do some investigating and report back to us.

        3) For the transmission, do you know the service history of it? I would first start by checking the fluid. Make sure its full and that the fluid does not look burnt. You may also want to consider dropping the transmission pan, replacing the transmission filter with a good OEM replacement and use the correct Ford OEM transmission fluid.

        I would also check to make sure there is no TSB’s for that transmission either.

        Hope this is a starting point for you C8-)

        #445387
        nowheremannowhereman
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          Quoted From dreamer2355:

          Welcome to the forums!

          1) For the brakes, if your experiencing a pulsation, you may have warped rotors. The only way to tell is to use a dial indicator gage and check for run out. I would start by having the rotors resurfaced.

          What brand of brake components were used? Squealing can also be cause by bad quality pads as well as a lack of lubrication on the pad that faces the piston.

          2) Here is a great video by Eric on finding suspension noises –

          http://www.youtube.com/user/EricTheCarG … cFbb43fwqk

          Watch that video then do some investigating and report back to us.

          3) For the transmission, do you know the service history of it? I would first start by checking the fluid. Make sure its full and that the fluid does not look burnt. You may also want to consider dropping the transmission pan, replacing the transmission filter with a good OEM replacement and use the correct Ford OEM transmission fluid.

          I would also check to make sure there is no TSB’s for that transmission either.

          Hope this is a starting point for you C8-)

          Thanks dreamer for your answer.

          I will need to check the rotors as recommended, I will update on that as well.

          The dealer I bought the car from is USELESS, I contacted them more than one time to get straight answer about what brand they used for my brakes, if the transmission was serviced or not, and no fixed answer, everytime I call I get a different answer, so I gave up calling them and wasting my time.

          As of the transmission, I don’t know the service history, but since it has low mileage I would drain and refill the transmission fluid, I believe the transmission filter is deep inside the transmission case for that vehicle, I guess you cant replace it without taking the transmission apart(correct me if im wrong here)
          fluid level is ok , color(pink/red)

          #445388
          EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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            This sounds familiar like I’ve responded to this in my email at some point.

            That said there is little I can add to Dreamers post as he seems ‘on the ball’ with this one.

            I agree that you probably have warped rotors which can cause a brake pulsation in the steering wheel during braking. The noise may be due to worn brake parts or ‘cheep’ brake parts, either will cause noise but since you have a rotor issue you might consider getting the rotors machined if they can be or replacing them and installing new brake parts, here is a video I did on replacing disc brakes that might help you.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAviOGXzEUk

            AS Dreamer posted that video shows how to address a suspension noise issue and covers a wide variety of things to check.

            The transmission is going to be the most difficult and in the end you might want to take it to a transmission specialist to see what the issue is, they will probably recommend a ‘flush’ to start with but to be honest it may have internal failures. It’s not likely that the dealer replaced the fluid or did anything with the transmission during the replacement of the engine and to be honest it’s not common for them to do so mainly because if the technician got a work order stating ‘replace the engine’ he probably did just that and nothing more as that is all he was probably paid for and if you’ve seen my ETCG1 video on the flat rate system you’ll understand what I’m referring to.

            Keep us posted on what you find as it seems you have quite a few issues and if you have a transmission issue it might be time to figure out if you wish to keep the car or not especially if the tires are old, if you have to invest in tires in addition to all the rest you might be well to get another vehicle. Personally I’d figure out what’s going on with the transmission first before I made any other investments.

            #445389
            nowheremannowhereman
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              Quoted From EricTheCarGuy:

              This sounds familiar like I’ve responded to this in my email at some point.

              That said there is little I can add to Dreamers post as he seems ‘on the ball’ with this one.

              I agree that you probably have warped rotors which can cause a brake pulsation in the steering wheel during braking. The noise may be due to worn brake parts or ‘cheep’ brake parts, either will cause noise but since you have a rotor issue you might consider getting the rotors machined if they can be or replacing them and installing new brake parts, here is a video I did on replacing disc brakes that might help you.
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAviOGXzEUk

              AS Dreamer posted that video shows how to address a suspension noise issue and covers a wide variety of things to check.

              The transmission is going to be the most difficult and in the end you might want to take it to a transmission specialist to see what the issue is, they will probably recommend a ‘flush’ to start with but to be honest it may have internal failures. It’s not likely that the dealer replaced the fluid or did anything with the transmission during the replacement of the engine and to be honest it’s not common for them to do so mainly because if the technician got a work order stating ‘replace the engine’ he probably did just that and nothing more as that is all he was probably paid for and if you’ve seen my ETCG1 video on the flat rate system you’ll understand what I’m referring to.

              Keep us posted on what you find as it seems you have quite a few issues and if you have a transmission issue it might be time to figure out if you wish to keep the car or not especially if the tires are old, if you have to invest in tires in addition to all the rest you might be well to get another vehicle. Personally I’d figure out what’s going on with the transmission first before I made any other investments.

              I believe I will take it to a transmission specialist, I will just make them try to find out what might be wrong, then in case they did, I will jump to the dealer with the warrant papers(as it covers internal transmission components and let them deal with it), if I did not have any warranty I would get rid of it and get another one.
              I will keep you updated all about the outcome.

              #445390
              MattMatt
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                I would just like to add that I have never been a fan of Ford’s transversely mounted automatic transmissions after about 1999, when I was driving my boss’s brand new Taurus. The thing always seemed to be hunting for a gear and took awhile to make up it’s mind, especially on hard accelerations when you were already moving, and it also seemed to take awhile to upshift as you mentioned. My friend bought a 1999 Taurus used, and it did the same thing. Both were taken back to the dealer when I mentioned it to the owners of the cars, and they were told ‘all systems normal’. I guess I just didn’t like the feel of ’em, and it’s the only cars I’ve driven where I experienced the problem. Just my two cents.

                #445391
                nowheremannowhereman
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                  Last update:
                  I took the car to a transmission specialist shop, the bad news is : the transmission has a very low pressure which will require them to take it a part to know exactly what is causing this and to also check for the rest of the trans components.

                  The good news is that the warranty covers all of that, so basically I won’t pay a cent however the cost might be.and it will cover MOST of the suspension parts that needs to be replaced, so I will get both taking care of.

                  I got sometime to talk to the guy over there and I got some information that would love to share though that some might already know:

                  If transmission has a high mileage on it, don’t chemically flush it (like in shops flushing etc) UNLESS you were replacing the fluid every now and then, if not, in many cases you might start having problems, a drain and refill is the best you can do every 30-40k miles or as your manual indicate.

                  Ford Escape transmission CD4E is meant for Mazda’s cars (sedan’s), but they made some modifications and using it in wider car ranges, and this is why its not good for higher power engines like these in SUV’s, he told me he gets alot of CD4E issues specially in Ford(that is what he said).

                  The CD4E filter can not be serviced, its made for lifetime service, more to say its buried deep inside the transmission, you can not just replace easily as many other cars, and if clogged it might be a reason for the low pressure.

                  So, this is as of today, once they get to know the main cause of such low pressure in details and updates me I will update here as well

                  Will let you all know.

                  #445392
                  dreamer2355dreamer2355
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                    Thanks for keeping us up to date!

                    #445393
                    EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                      It is as I suspected, thanks for keeping us up to date and I’m very happy to hear it’s not going to be an out of pocket expense for you, good news indeed. Keep us posted on your progress.

                      #445395
                      dreamer2355dreamer2355
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                        The trans axle is used on front wheel drive vehicles. It houses the differential and is the correct terminology for that part. Some people however just call it a transmission.

                        On rear wheel drive vehicles, there is a separate differential, thus that vehicle has a ‘transmission’.

                        Hope this makes sense C8-)

                        #445396
                        nowheremannowhereman
                        Participant

                          Uhm, thanks for explaining

                          Just got a call from the shop and here is what they found:

                          They found the Torque converter was coming a part inside the transmission it self which already damaged some components inside, as a result they decided to change the following with brand new parts:

                          1: The Torque converter
                          2: Solenoid
                          3: Valve body
                          4: Overhaul kit
                          5: All the wires and sensors

                          He added saying mostly I will get everything replaced but the external case!!!!
                          They took care of the deductible which I should pay with the insurance company , I’m getting that work done for free, that is a good news no doubt.
                          Well, I’m looking forward to get the car back, test and update.

                          #445397
                          dreamer2355dreamer2355
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                            Awesome, keep up posted and i agree with the trans axle case. The only time you replace those is if there is cracks or external damage for the most part.

                            Good luck.

                            #445398
                            EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                              Personally I’d want a replacement trans but if they are going to stand by their work I would take them at their word, to be honest without seeing the ‘damage’ for myself there is little I can offer besides opinion. Keep us up to date on this one.

                              #445399
                              nowheremannowhereman
                              Participant

                                Totally agree with you on that one, but obviously they shown the damage to the adjuster that was sent by the insurance company so they get an authorization to do the job and get paid otherwise the insurance would not pay a dime, being said, no doubt there is a big damage that require $1500.00 parts +$1277 labor that the insurance company approved based on the determination made and the pictures taken by the insurance company for their record.

                                Also I was informed by the shop manager that once I’m there to take the vehicle back, they will give me documents states the parts replaced, cost for parts and labor for record.

                                On the other hand, this warranty still in effect for another 4 years or 35k miles which ever comes first, since I barely make 5k miles/year, so the warranty would last till 2014, something happens I will take it back and get them to do the work without paying a dime D:-).

                                My plan is to sell it once the warranty is about to go bye bye though.

                                Let’s see what will happen and I will update.
                                xoxo

                                #445394
                                nowheremannowhereman
                                Participant

                                  Latest updates:
                                  I called the Insurance company and they said that they authorized transaxle replacement, and the total claim was over $2700.00
                                  Yet I need to call the shop to get more details on exactly what is going on.
                                  Between, can someone enlight me a little bit about what is transaxle and what does replacing it means(is it full transmission replacement or just a part or what is it exactly.
                                  Also, what do they need to disassemble to get that out and replace it ?
                                  I will post updates when available.
                                  Thanks

                                  #445400
                                  jbonejbone
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                                    IIRC the cd4e was used in earlier mazda’s but was beefed up to go into the SUV’s…the tranny may also need a software update..My recomendation is to go over to the escape forum where there are alot of knowledge on this specific vehicle, with tsb’s and recall info and so on..www.escape-city.com

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