HHO Generator

[NathanielA]

I have been looking at this Hydrogen generator stuff on the web.. It uses stainless steel plates inside a non conducting vessle which with water and baking soda, and about 20 amps DC current produces hydrogen which is led to the closest location of the throttle butterfly valve. Have even sees videos of these hydrogen generators on small engines running them without gasoline. Also looked up the chip which can be tied in to the OBDii plug so it can trim the o2 sensor’s output so that it will actually trim the mix without harming the valves or pistons, because the hydogen boosts the burn efficiency of the gas. Will this work? Can it indeed help us save fuel? I have a 2007 Honda Ridgeline with a 3.5 liter engine, and it gets about 19mpg on the highway, and I dont have a lead foot.

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[3SheetsDiesel]

Snake oil. The power to make the hydrogen has to come from somewhere, in this case it’s coming from your truck’s alternator, causing it to work harder, in turn causing the engine to use more fuel. Also, electrolysis (the process of gettin gwater to break up into hydrogen and oxygen) takes a long time to get hydrogen in any real quantity, so it’s not going to have any positive efect on vehicle operation whatsoever.

If youwant to build one anyway, by all means go ahead, just don’t expect it to do anything productive. Sorry to crap all over your dreams like that.

[Dr. Jerryrigger]

I have heard good reports from a few people who have made these. The thing is you have to make or buy a really good efficient HHO generator (expensive). And at best you may save 8% on fuel, and some people can’t get any improvements with a specific car.
To do it right you’re looking at $800 plus if you make everything yourself. And then you need to maintain the system, which isn’t free.

As to the conservation of energy argument against the HHO; The idea is that you can get more power out of your fuel (less burnt in the cat) and also lean out your trim, which can over come the extra alternator draw. It’s a tricky balance to get right.

All and all it’s not really worth the money and work unless it seems like a fun hobby for you.

[jacobnbr1]

Hydrogen works but you are not going to get the correct answer here.

You need to seek out a remap of the powertrain control unit before your cars computer will even allow any changes like this to make a positive reaction.

Ignition timing and fuel mixtures are key and those are pre programmed for a certain function and the whole purpose of the pcm is to maintain a 14-7-1fuel ratio. Whatever sensors you try to trick will only cause another reaction that is going to counter whatever you are trying to accomplish.

You can put it on a carburated car because you can make the adjustments manually and will likely see the affects but I wouldn’t bother wasting your time with that crap because I’m certain the mass engineers have already looked at it but can’t get a good stable reliable outcome not to mention the stupid generator will need cleaned and flushed every two weeks or so.

Some day there will be a breakthrough but not right now…

[pcmdjason]

Also HHO systems are prone to backfire and blow up if not designed correctly.

Especially if a perfect mix of hydrogen and oxygen are accumulating anywhere such as an intake manifold or in the vessle that generates them.

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