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  • in reply to: 2004 Cavalier Ecotec Random Misfire P0300 #571605
    JamesJames
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      I would do a compression test anyway, might give you some insight. Have you ever performed a compression test? If not, you will need a compression test tool. They are pretty inexpensive, or you can even rent on from a local auto parts chain, pay a deposit, and get your money back when you return it.

      You will want to take all the spark plugs out, disable fuel (remove the fuel pump relay, I believe on your car under the hood), and crank 5-6 crank rotations, record the numbers, and post them back.

      I actually misspoke I believe. Ford has misfire data on mode 6, but GM I don’t think does. They have a misfire counter, but that is only if you have the enhanced OBD2 package for GM on your scan tool.

      I would do the compression test, and you could also do a backyard power balance:
      [video width=550 height=309 type=youtube]bAOmUjAjNjE[/video]

      The goal here is to find what cyl is misfiring, as the code does not say. I would highly recommend bringing the car to someone that has a scan tool capable of reading GM’s misfire count, otherwise, you can continue to throw parts at it, but that’s an expensive game. As Wayne613 said, call up some local shops and ask if they have GM extended OBD2 tools, and how much to diagnose a misfire.

      Or you could also invest in a good scan tool yourself. If you have a laptop running windows: http://www.scantool.net/scan-tools/pc-based/obdlink.html

      There are many options, but that software is pretty good, even if you don’t use their OBD2 interface.

      in reply to: 2004 Cavalier Ecotec Random Misfire P0300 #578161
      JamesJames
      Participant

        I would do a compression test anyway, might give you some insight. Have you ever performed a compression test? If not, you will need a compression test tool. They are pretty inexpensive, or you can even rent on from a local auto parts chain, pay a deposit, and get your money back when you return it.

        You will want to take all the spark plugs out, disable fuel (remove the fuel pump relay, I believe on your car under the hood), and crank 5-6 crank rotations, record the numbers, and post them back.

        I actually misspoke I believe. Ford has misfire data on mode 6, but GM I don’t think does. They have a misfire counter, but that is only if you have the enhanced OBD2 package for GM on your scan tool.

        I would do the compression test, and you could also do a backyard power balance:
        [video width=550 height=309 type=youtube]bAOmUjAjNjE[/video]

        The goal here is to find what cyl is misfiring, as the code does not say. I would highly recommend bringing the car to someone that has a scan tool capable of reading GM’s misfire count, otherwise, you can continue to throw parts at it, but that’s an expensive game. As Wayne613 said, call up some local shops and ask if they have GM extended OBD2 tools, and how much to diagnose a misfire.

        Or you could also invest in a good scan tool yourself. If you have a laptop running windows: http://www.scantool.net/scan-tools/pc-based/obdlink.html

        There are many options, but that software is pretty good, even if you don’t use their OBD2 interface.

        in reply to: White steam/smoke radiator upper hose #571583
        JamesJames
        Participant

          I would pressure test your cooling system. This should allow you to find out where the leak is coming from, using something like http://www.harborfreight.com/radiator-pressure-tester-kit-69258.html

          in reply to: White steam/smoke radiator upper hose #578145
          JamesJames
          Participant

            I would pressure test your cooling system. This should allow you to find out where the leak is coming from, using something like http://www.harborfreight.com/radiator-pressure-tester-kit-69258.html

            in reply to: 2004 Cavalier Ecotec Random Misfire P0300 #571581
            JamesJames
            Participant

              What kind of scantool do you have access to? I would recommend looking at mode 6 data to figure out what cyl is missing, and then go from there with a compression test to start.

              in reply to: 2004 Cavalier Ecotec Random Misfire P0300 #578143
              JamesJames
              Participant

                What kind of scantool do you have access to? I would recommend looking at mode 6 data to figure out what cyl is missing, and then go from there with a compression test to start.

                in reply to: 2001 3.8L Mustang Hesitation/possible miss? #571565
                JamesJames
                Participant

                  I have read that. Definitely some things to look into. I did change all the spark plugs with OEM Motorcraft, seems to help a bit on startup, but the main issue is still there. I did some more work with my scan tool, and found some interesting results. When looking at FORD.ENGINE.INJ(x)_f, that monitors the injector circuit for faults, I did notice on injector 1, a very rapid switch from fault to no-fault. I have attached the data, and will try to paste it here to see how it looks.

                  I only posted 2 of the cyl, normal reading and abnormal reading, 4 seems normal, 1 seems odd. I suppose the next order of business is to switch injector 1 and injector 2, and see if the problem moves. Again, no code, but just my findings with the scan tool.

                  Frame Number FORD.ENGINE.INJ4_F FORD.ENGINE.INJ1_F
                  Frame Number Injector #4 fault (open/short) Injector #1 fault (open/short)
                  Frame Number INJ4_F INJ1_F
                  Frame Number
                  Frame Number INJ4_F INJ1_F
                  0 No Fault No Fault
                  1 No Fault No Fault
                  2 No Fault No Fault
                  3 No Fault No Fault
                  4 No Fault No Fault
                  5 No Fault No Fault
                  6 No Fault No Fault
                  7 No Fault No Fault
                  8 No Fault Fault
                  9 No Fault No Fault
                  10 No Fault No Fault
                  11 No Fault No Fault
                  12 No Fault No Fault
                  13 No Fault Fault
                  14 No Fault No Fault
                  15 No Fault Fault
                  16 No Fault No Fault
                  17 No Fault No Fault
                  18 No Fault No Fault
                  19 No Fault No Fault
                  20 No Fault Fault
                  21 No Fault No Fault
                  22 No Fault No Fault
                  23 No Fault No Fault
                  24 No Fault No Fault
                  25 No Fault Fault
                  26 No Fault No Fault
                  27 No Fault No Fault
                  28 No Fault No Fault
                  29 No Fault No Fault
                  30 No Fault No Fault
                  31 No Fault No Fault
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                  34 No Fault No Fault
                  35 No Fault No Fault
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                  41 No Fault No Fault
                  42 No Fault No Fault
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                  52 No Fault No Fault
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                  266 No Fault No Fault
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                  269 No Fault Fault
                  270 No Fault No Fault
                  271 No Fault No Fault
                  272 No Fault No Fault
                  273 No Fault Fault
                  274 No Fault No Fault
                  in reply to: 2001 3.8L Mustang Hesitation/possible miss? #578134
                  JamesJames
                  Participant

                    I have read that. Definitely some things to look into. I did change all the spark plugs with OEM Motorcraft, seems to help a bit on startup, but the main issue is still there. I did some more work with my scan tool, and found some interesting results. When looking at FORD.ENGINE.INJ(x)_f, that monitors the injector circuit for faults, I did notice on injector 1, a very rapid switch from fault to no-fault. I have attached the data, and will try to paste it here to see how it looks.

                    I only posted 2 of the cyl, normal reading and abnormal reading, 4 seems normal, 1 seems odd. I suppose the next order of business is to switch injector 1 and injector 2, and see if the problem moves. Again, no code, but just my findings with the scan tool.

                    Frame Number FORD.ENGINE.INJ4_F FORD.ENGINE.INJ1_F
                    Frame Number Injector #4 fault (open/short) Injector #1 fault (open/short)
                    Frame Number INJ4_F INJ1_F
                    Frame Number
                    Frame Number INJ4_F INJ1_F
                    0 No Fault No Fault
                    1 No Fault No Fault
                    2 No Fault No Fault
                    3 No Fault No Fault
                    4 No Fault No Fault
                    5 No Fault No Fault
                    6 No Fault No Fault
                    7 No Fault No Fault
                    8 No Fault Fault
                    9 No Fault No Fault
                    10 No Fault No Fault
                    11 No Fault No Fault
                    12 No Fault No Fault
                    13 No Fault Fault
                    14 No Fault No Fault
                    15 No Fault Fault
                    16 No Fault No Fault
                    17 No Fault No Fault
                    18 No Fault No Fault
                    19 No Fault No Fault
                    20 No Fault Fault
                    21 No Fault No Fault
                    22 No Fault No Fault
                    23 No Fault No Fault
                    24 No Fault No Fault
                    25 No Fault Fault
                    26 No Fault No Fault
                    27 No Fault No Fault
                    28 No Fault No Fault
                    29 No Fault No Fault
                    30 No Fault No Fault
                    31 No Fault No Fault
                    32 No Fault No Fault
                    33 No Fault No Fault
                    34 No Fault No Fault
                    35 No Fault No Fault
                    36 No Fault No Fault
                    37 No Fault Fault
                    38 No Fault No Fault
                    39 No Fault No Fault
                    40 No Fault No Fault
                    41 No Fault No Fault
                    42 No Fault No Fault
                    43 No Fault No Fault
                    44 No Fault No Fault
                    45 No Fault No Fault
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                    50 No Fault No Fault
                    51 No Fault Fault
                    52 No Fault No Fault
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                    54 No Fault No Fault
                    55 No Fault Fault
                    56 No Fault No Fault
                    57 No Fault No Fault
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                    59 No Fault No Fault
                    60 No Fault No Fault
                    61 No Fault No Fault
                    62 No Fault Fault
                    63 No Fault No Fault
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                    65 No Fault No Fault
                    66 No Fault No Fault
                    67 No Fault Fault
                    68 No Fault No Fault
                    69 No Fault No Fault
                    70 No Fault No Fault
                    71 No Fault Fault
                    72 No Fault Fault
                    73 No Fault No Fault
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                    76 No Fault Fault
                    77 No Fault No Fault
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                    80 No Fault No Fault
                    81 No Fault No Fault
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                    84 No Fault No Fault
                    85 No Fault No Fault
                    86 No Fault No Fault
                    87 No Fault Fault
                    88 No Fault No Fault
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                    90 No Fault No Fault
                    91 No Fault No Fault
                    92 No Fault Fault
                    93 No Fault No Fault
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