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Dealership called and here is what they found.. They ran a diagnostic on my vehicle and found that the EHCU or Electric control unit for the abs failed. The valve inside collapsed and is preventing brake fluid to flow into my front brakes. He said that to replace the electric control unit will run around 1100.00?!?!?!? He said they can replace it if I get the part myself. I ordered the part for 399.00 with free shipping on ebay and the dealership will put it on for 314.00.
I have to come to a end on how much I should keep putting into my vehicle being a 2003 saturn vue with 198,000 miles. Im planning on keeping it but as a back up vehicle.
Thanks, James
Stay Dirty!
Dealership called and here is what they found.. They ran a diagnostic on my vehicle and found that the EHCU or Electric control unit for the abs failed. The valve inside collapsed and is preventing brake fluid to flow into my front brakes. He said that to replace the electric control unit will run around 1100.00?!?!?!? He said they can replace it if I get the part myself. I ordered the part for 399.00 with free shipping on ebay and the dealership will put it on for 314.00.
I have to come to a end on how much I should keep putting into my vehicle being a 2003 saturn vue with 198,000 miles. Im planning on keeping it but as a back up vehicle.
Thanks, James
Stay Dirty!
Dealership called and here is what they found.. They ran a diagnostic on my vehicle and found that the EHCU or Electric control unit for the abs failed. The valve inside collapsed and is preventing brake fluid to flow into my front brakes. He said that to replace the electric control unit will run around 1100.00?!?!?!? He said they can replace it if I get the part myself. I ordered the part for 399.00 with free shipping on ebay and the dealership will put it on for 314.00.
I have to come to a end on how much I should keep puttin into my vehicle being a 2003 saturn vue with 198,000 miles. Im planning on keeping it but as a back up vehicle.
Thanks, James
Stay Dirty!
Dealership called and here is what they found.. They ran a diagnostic on my vehicle and found that the EHCU or Electric control unit for the abs failed. The valve inside collapsed and is preventing brake fluid to flow into my front brakes. He said that to replace the electric control unit will run around 1100.00?!?!?!? He said they can replace it if I get the part myself. I ordered the part for 399.00 with free shipping on ebay and the dealership will put it on for 314.00.
I have to come to a end on how much I should keep puttin into my vehicle being a 2003 saturn vue with 198,000 miles. Im planning on keeping it but as a back up vehicle.
Thanks, James
Stay Dirty!
Well, I replaced my master cylinder and the brakes are allot better, but STILL lock up if I drive for 50 mph?!??! So, I took it into the dealership last night and told him whats happening. He said they will call me later this afternoon and let me know what they find. I somehow feel its one of the brake lines running into the abs system. But well see.. Ill keep you posted on what they find.
Thanks, James :woohoo:
Well, I replaced my master cylinder and the brakes are allot better, but STILL lock up if I drive for 50 mph?!??! So, I took it into the dealership last night and told him whats happening. He said they will call me later this afternoon and let me know what they find. I somehow feel its one of the brake lines running into the abs system. But well see.. Ill keep you posted on what they find.
Thanks, James :woohoo:
Well, I replaced both of the rotors, calipers and brake pads and bleed all four wheels, and its allot better, but the brakes are now spongy. I ordered a new master cylinder and Im going to replace it today or tomorrow and THEN test drive it. I dont want to drive it until the master cylinder is replaced. Brakes aren’t hard, its just that when one thing fails after another its just a pain to figure out what where and how it went wrong. But if It still spongy, then yea Ill have it looked at, because at that point Ill just be frustrated and tired of spending so much of my time working on it. LOL.. Ill keep you all posted.
Well, I replaced both of the rotors, calipers and brake pads and bleed all four wheels, and its allot better, but the brakes are now spongy. I ordered a new master cylinder and Im going to replace it today or tomorrow and THEN test drive it. I dont want to drive it until the master cylinder is replaced. Brakes aren’t hard, its just that when one thing fails after another its just a pain to figure out what where and how it went wrong. But if It still spongy, then yea Ill have it looked at, because at that point Ill just be frustrated and tired of spending so much of my time working on it. LOL.. Ill keep you all posted.
Thanks Eric,
Actually I did install a new brake switch, because I remember one time I was driving home from work and my abs and brake light was coming on and off randomly. So I thought my brakes were sticking so I pulled up on it and popped out my brake switch, which left my brake lights on so, I replaced it.
I pulled up on my brake pedal and there is no movement.. I emailed a friend of mine who helps us Saturn owners and I told him that I seen that my brake lines run into a abs box then two lines to the master cylinder.
So, What Im going to do is replace my brake rotor and pads and bleed both sides as best I can and Im going to tow it to a service garage. I thought of a dealership but I felt that dealerships might charge my too much. I just hope and pray that its NOT my ABS control module..
Here is what my buddy found with his online GM service manual.
If you have ABS – the metal pipe (from each wheel) goes to ABS valve assembly – which is between master cylinder and each wheel … extract follows:
The valve assembly provides brake fluid pressure modulation for each of the individual wheel circuits, as required, during an ABS/TCS event. During an ABS event, the valve assembly can maintain or reduce brake fluid pressure that is applied by the master cylinder. The valve assembly cannot increase pressure beyond what is applied by the master cylinder (driver). The valve assembly contains a motor-driven pump, ABS inlet and outlet valves, as well as TCS prime and isolation valves. With exception of the ABS control module (EBTCM), the valve assembly is not serviceable and should never be disassembled.
The valve assembly is controlled by ABS Control Module … extract follows:
The ABS control module monitors the speed of each wheel to detect wheel slip. If wheel slip is detected, the module commands the appropriate valve positions in the valve assembly to modulate brake pressure in some or all of the hydraulic circuits. This action prevents wheel slip and provides optimum braking. In addition, the ABS control module performs a continuous diagnostic routine to detect malfunctions. If the module detects an electrical malfunction, it can disable ABS/TCS/DRP, illuminate the appropriate telltale and store a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC).
The ABS control module contains a solenoid for each ABS/TCS valve it operates and a relay for the solenoid circuit and pump motor circuit respectively. The relays and solenoids are not serviceable.
Well, this one is for sure out of my league… Eric thank you for all your time and dedication for helping us guys save some money and do it ourselves..
Stay Dirty!
James 🙂
Thanks Eric,
Actually I did install a new brake switch, because I remember one time I was driving home from work and my abs and brake light was coming on and off randomly. So I thought my brakes were sticking so I pulled up on it and popped out my brake switch, which left my brake lights on so, I replaced it.
I pulled up on my brake pedal and there is no movement.. I emailed a friend of mine who helps us Saturn owners and I told him that I seen that my brake lines run into a abs box then two lines to the master cylinder.
So, What Im going to do is replace my brake rotor and pads and bleed both sides as best I can and Im going to tow it to a service garage. I thought of a dealership but I felt that dealerships might charge my too much. I just hope and pray that its NOT my ABS control module..
Here is what my buddy found with his online GM service manual.
If you have ABS – the metal pipe (from each wheel) goes to ABS valve assembly – which is between master cylinder and each wheel … extract follows:
The valve assembly provides brake fluid pressure modulation for each of the individual wheel circuits, as required, during an ABS/TCS event. During an ABS event, the valve assembly can maintain or reduce brake fluid pressure that is applied by the master cylinder. The valve assembly cannot increase pressure beyond what is applied by the master cylinder (driver). The valve assembly contains a motor-driven pump, ABS inlet and outlet valves, as well as TCS prime and isolation valves. With exception of the ABS control module (EBTCM), the valve assembly is not serviceable and should never be disassembled.
The valve assembly is controlled by ABS Control Module … extract follows:
The ABS control module monitors the speed of each wheel to detect wheel slip. If wheel slip is detected, the module commands the appropriate valve positions in the valve assembly to modulate brake pressure in some or all of the hydraulic circuits. This action prevents wheel slip and provides optimum braking. In addition, the ABS control module performs a continuous diagnostic routine to detect malfunctions. If the module detects an electrical malfunction, it can disable ABS/TCS/DRP, illuminate the appropriate telltale and store a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC).
The ABS control module contains a solenoid for each ABS/TCS valve it operates and a relay for the solenoid circuit and pump motor circuit respectively. The relays and solenoids are not serviceable.
Well, this one is for sure out of my league… Eric thank you for all your time and dedication for helping us guys save some money and do it ourselves..
Stay Dirty!
James 🙂
Well, I took off the rotors since they are warped, caliper and bracket on both sides. I first did the passenger side and the brake hose was dripping so I put a vice grip on it like you did in your video, with a old rubber hose attached to the teeth of the vice grip. Then, I went to the driver side and when I disconnected the hose to the caliper It wasnt dripping.Hmmm, So I unhooked the rubber hose to the brake line, to see if it was the hose or the brake line and sure enough the brake line wasnt dripping.. So, I pressed on the brake pedal and fluid came out. So, Im wonder if its my master cylinder has gone bad??? But if it was the master cylinder than my brakes would feel spongy. Also, as you mentioned eric about the brake pedal being pulled up to high? I remember one time when I was driving I knocked out the brake switch when I accidently pulled up on the brake pedal, but I replaced the the brake switch and reinstalled it. I So any ideas why it isnt dripping freely?? Also, the Back drums seem fine, I will double check and make sure that I can bleed them. But yea, I didnt mention the rear drums because I assumed they worked fine, I even pulled it on the emergency brake and I can feel them brake and then release them when I put it down, So I ruled them out of the equation.. But No drip on the driver side brake line, any thoughts or ideas would be awesome.. 🙂 Then I was thinking, If it could be something with my ABS system on my suv? This is a 2003 saturn vue 3.0 v6
Off to work 🙁
Stay dirty! James
Well, I took off the rotors since they are warped, caliper and bracket on both sides. I first did the passenger side and the brake hose was dripping so I put a vice grip on it like you did in your video, with a old rubber hose attached to the teeth of the vice grip. Then, I went to the driver side and when I disconnected the hose to the caliper It wasnt dripping.Hmmm, So I unhooked the rubber hose to the brake line, to see if it was the hose or the brake line and sure enough the brake line wasnt dripping.. So, I pressed on the brake pedal and fluid came out. So, Im wonder if its my master cylinder has gone bad??? But if it was the master cylinder than my brakes would feel spongy. Also, as you mentioned eric about the brake pedal being pulled up to high? I remember one time when I was driving I knocked out the brake switch when I accidently pulled up on the brake pedal, but I replaced the the brake switch and reinstalled it. I So any ideas why it isnt dripping freely?? Also, the Back drums seem fine, I will double check and make sure that I can bleed them. But yea, I didnt mention the rear drums because I assumed they worked fine, I even pulled it on the emergency brake and I can feel them brake and then release them when I put it down, So I ruled them out of the equation.. But No drip on the driver side brake line, any thoughts or ideas would be awesome.. 🙂 Then I was thinking, If it could be something with my ABS system on my suv? This is a 2003 saturn vue 3.0 v6
Off to work 🙁
Stay dirty! James
Thanks Eric, Im glad to hear what your saying. I had thoughts on what went wrong and even thought of a brake booster. I think its the caliper slides, I used caliper grease sold at the store, But will now use caliper silicon grease you recommend. Also, The pad ate into my rotor so I have to put new rotors and pads on.
Thanks Eric, Im glad to hear what your saying. I had thoughts on what went wrong and even thought of a brake booster. I think its the caliper slides, I used caliper grease sold at the store, But will now use caliper silicon grease you recommend. Also, The pad ate into my rotor so I have to put new rotors and pads on.